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	<title>Comments on: Whiptips: refashioning the button-down shirt</title>
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		<title>By: Madame O</title>
		<link>http://whipup.net/2006/07/14/whiptips-refashioning-the-button-down-shirt/comment-page-1/#comment-25809</link>
		<dc:creator>Madame O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 03:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out what Margiela does for a jacket to make it smaller, more fitted --and at the same time very chic and edgy.  The same can be done for a shirt ----Margiela did it in fact but I can&#039;t find a photo quickly----Note &#039;&#039;dart&#039;&#039; on the top over the shoulders (front and back) bringing in the shoulder line.  Diagonal tucks down much of  the sleeve length narrowing the sleeves.   The resulting uneven hems on the cuff is a special look.   The length is shortened by a horizontal fold at the waist-----.  Try this ---it is fresh and moderne---genius.

http://www1.yoox.com/item/YOOX/MARTIN+MARGIELA/tskay/3FD17CD7/rr/1/cod10/410303523N/areaid/35</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out what Margiela does for a jacket to make it smaller, more fitted &#8211;and at the same time very chic and edgy.  The same can be done for a shirt &#8212;-Margiela did it in fact but I can&#8217;t find a photo quickly&#8212;-Note &#8221;dart&#8221; on the top over the shoulders (front and back) bringing in the shoulder line.  Diagonal tucks down much of  the sleeve length narrowing the sleeves.   The resulting uneven hems on the cuff is a special look.   The length is shortened by a horizontal fold at the waist&#8212;&#8211;.  Try this &#8212;it is fresh and moderne&#8212;genius.</p>
<p><a href="http://www1.yoox.com/item/YOOX/MARTIN+MARGIELA/tskay/3FD17CD7/rr/1/cod10/410303523N/areaid/35" rel="nofollow">http://www1.yoox.com/item/YOOX/MARTIN+MARGIELA/tskay/3FD17CD7/rr/1/cod10/410303523N/areaid/35</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the pear-shaped person, reconstructing XL mens shirts is a great way to get a cheap tunic. I do the basic sewing up-the-arm-and-down-the-side, but stop just above my waist, leaving the hip area large.
Another good trick to &quot;girly&quot;-up the shirt is replacing the boring buttons with cute ones.

This is a great blog, thanks!

Erica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the pear-shaped person, reconstructing XL mens shirts is a great way to get a cheap tunic. I do the basic sewing up-the-arm-and-down-the-side, but stop just above my waist, leaving the hip area large.<br />
Another good trick to &#8220;girly&#8221;-up the shirt is replacing the boring buttons with cute ones.</p>
<p>This is a great blog, thanks!</p>
<p>Erica</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. My thanks especially to &quot;Salt&quot; who addressed every one of my concerns, including giving me the confidence that  &quot;shirt shrinking&quot; can be done in a skilled manner.  It is so helpful not to have to reinvent the wheel when starting a project--allowing the focus to be on making it one&#039;s own customized wheel!
These replies also got me thinking about the cuff issue: I imagine it would be possible to cut off the cuff, leaving the slit up the wrist, pleat the fullness, then attach a bias edge hem, fastened by either button and loop or tied.
I will post photos when I am able to start this project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. My thanks especially to &#8220;Salt&#8221; who addressed every one of my concerns, including giving me the confidence that  &#8220;shirt shrinking&#8221; can be done in a skilled manner.  It is so helpful not to have to reinvent the wheel when starting a project&#8211;allowing the focus to be on making it one&#8217;s own customized wheel!<br />
These replies also got me thinking about the cuff issue: I imagine it would be possible to cut off the cuff, leaving the slit up the wrist, pleat the fullness, then attach a bias edge hem, fastened by either button and loop or tied.<br />
I will post photos when I am able to start this project.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Twiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Twiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 14:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fiftyRX3: Recycled Project Pt. II - Pt. I

http://fiftyrx3.blogspot.com/2006/07/recycled-project-pt-ii-pt-i.html#links</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fiftyRX3: Recycled Project Pt. II &#8211; Pt. I</p>
<p><a href="http://fiftyrx3.blogspot.com/2006/07/recycled-project-pt-ii-pt-i.html#links" rel="nofollow">http://fiftyrx3.blogspot.com/2006/07/recycled-project-pt-ii-pt-i.html#links</a></p>
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		<title>By: salt</title>
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		<dc:creator>salt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 18:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m struggling with the exact same problem: shirts that are too huge but that I want to be shirts, still. I&#039;ve come up with two strategies that work.

1. For shirts that I&#039;ll wear under other things, like vests or jumpers, and for which the sleeves aren&#039;t too gigantohorrific in dimension, I take a long tuck/dart up the front, right straight over the shoulder and down the back. This pull the shoulders back in to the natural break as well as gathering in the bulk of the body, and can even be done with yoked styles. The tuck is visible, but either covered by the overgarment or something that can be pretended is on purpose. I suppose that an unyoked shirt could have a yoke of a contrasting fabric sewn on top to mask the shoulder part of the tucks, but I&#039;ve never felt a need to go quite that far in departing from the original design. 

2. For shirts that I really want to continue to be standalone shirts, though, I use a properly-fitting pattern to recut the armsyce/side seams and then reattach the sleeves after I reduce them in width to the new pattern&#039;s dimensions. I leave the cuffs and where the sleeves join them alone, so these are sometimes a little larger than would be absolutely in scale with the rest of the shirt; since I almost invariably turn my cuffs up, however, this isn&#039;t a problem for me. For the body, I use the (finished) front opening to line up the front of the pattern piece, which effectively reduces the body width by the cut along the underarm seam and armsyce, and I don&#039;t touch the shoulder seams or collar/neck opening. I&#039;ve not found that, for the style of shirt I have, the neck is so large that it is a problem, and that saves having to do all of that fiddly reconstruction. I do sometimes have to unpick the stitching to remove a pocket, and if the fabric has faded, that sometimes means a shirt is only suitable for the first reduction method, above, so that the unfaded part is covered by another garment. But there&#039;s nothing that undoes this whole reconstruction subtlty more than half a pocket in your armpit. Aside from the pocket, paying attention to how seams are finished in the original (things like topstitching) and matching thread color of any stitching that&#039;s on the right side of the garment can go a long way towards making the alteration undetectable. 

These aren&#039;t perfect solutions, but aren&#039;t terrifically fiddly either. So for me these have been a nice middle ground between having to use these shirts as simply a raw source for reclaimable fabric and a garment that just isn&#039;t wearable any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m struggling with the exact same problem: shirts that are too huge but that I want to be shirts, still. I&#8217;ve come up with two strategies that work.</p>
<p>1. For shirts that I&#8217;ll wear under other things, like vests or jumpers, and for which the sleeves aren&#8217;t too gigantohorrific in dimension, I take a long tuck/dart up the front, right straight over the shoulder and down the back. This pull the shoulders back in to the natural break as well as gathering in the bulk of the body, and can even be done with yoked styles. The tuck is visible, but either covered by the overgarment or something that can be pretended is on purpose. I suppose that an unyoked shirt could have a yoke of a contrasting fabric sewn on top to mask the shoulder part of the tucks, but I&#8217;ve never felt a need to go quite that far in departing from the original design. </p>
<p>2. For shirts that I really want to continue to be standalone shirts, though, I use a properly-fitting pattern to recut the armsyce/side seams and then reattach the sleeves after I reduce them in width to the new pattern&#8217;s dimensions. I leave the cuffs and where the sleeves join them alone, so these are sometimes a little larger than would be absolutely in scale with the rest of the shirt; since I almost invariably turn my cuffs up, however, this isn&#8217;t a problem for me. For the body, I use the (finished) front opening to line up the front of the pattern piece, which effectively reduces the body width by the cut along the underarm seam and armsyce, and I don&#8217;t touch the shoulder seams or collar/neck opening. I&#8217;ve not found that, for the style of shirt I have, the neck is so large that it is a problem, and that saves having to do all of that fiddly reconstruction. I do sometimes have to unpick the stitching to remove a pocket, and if the fabric has faded, that sometimes means a shirt is only suitable for the first reduction method, above, so that the unfaded part is covered by another garment. But there&#8217;s nothing that undoes this whole reconstruction subtlty more than half a pocket in your armpit. Aside from the pocket, paying attention to how seams are finished in the original (things like topstitching) and matching thread color of any stitching that&#8217;s on the right side of the garment can go a long way towards making the alteration undetectable. </p>
<p>These aren&#8217;t perfect solutions, but aren&#8217;t terrifically fiddly either. So for me these have been a nice middle ground between having to use these shirts as simply a raw source for reclaimable fabric and a garment that just isn&#8217;t wearable any more.</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 17:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I often do is take in the whole side of the shirt from bottom to somewhere in the sleeve.  I sew over this new seam twice with small stitches and then once a little further out so it will hopefully never rip completely out.  Then trim by cutting about 1/4 inch from that last outside seam.  This doesn&#039;t handle where the shoulder seam is but have given up experimenting with ways to create a pleat there, because it always seems wierder than what I started with.

If it&#039;s really too long it&#039;s pretty easy to shorten all the way around and I usually add a short (3&quot;) opening at sides.  Sometimes when a shirt is too big the collar seems over-large so I cut just the top part of the collar off;  just above seam for the piece about 3/4 inches wide that goes all the way around and has the top button in it.  Then pull on threads to get as many out as possible, after washing may need to pull loose threads more and cut them. 

Also, if you&#039;re dealing with any short sleeve shirts I&#039;ve found that a combination of the new side seam and shortening the sleeves keeps the shirt from looking too large and sloppy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I often do is take in the whole side of the shirt from bottom to somewhere in the sleeve.  I sew over this new seam twice with small stitches and then once a little further out so it will hopefully never rip completely out.  Then trim by cutting about 1/4 inch from that last outside seam.  This doesn&#8217;t handle where the shoulder seam is but have given up experimenting with ways to create a pleat there, because it always seems wierder than what I started with.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s really too long it&#8217;s pretty easy to shorten all the way around and I usually add a short (3&#8243;) opening at sides.  Sometimes when a shirt is too big the collar seems over-large so I cut just the top part of the collar off;  just above seam for the piece about 3/4 inches wide that goes all the way around and has the top button in it.  Then pull on threads to get as many out as possible, after washing may need to pull loose threads more and cut them. </p>
<p>Also, if you&#8217;re dealing with any short sleeve shirts I&#8217;ve found that a combination of the new side seam and shortening the sleeves keeps the shirt from looking too large and sloppy.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 10:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how about making a shirt dress - see this one on craftster
http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=101404.0
which is sort of inspired from this pattern at fitz patterns
http://www.fitzpatterns.com/Pages/FABIENNE/0505_Fabienne_Shirtdress_PatternPage.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how about making a shirt dress &#8211; see this one on craftster<br />
<a href="http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=101404.0" rel="nofollow">http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=101404.0</a><br />
which is sort of inspired from this pattern at fitz patterns<br />
<a href="http://www.fitzpatterns.com/Pages/FABIENNE/0505_Fabienne_Shirtdress_PatternPage.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.fitzpatterns.com/Pages/FABIENNE/0505_Fabienne_Shirtdress_PatternPage.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Miss Dot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please delete my duplicate post! sorry, thought it had timed out! cheers</description>
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		<title>By: Miss Dot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have reposted a shirt conversion I did some time ago.  http://missminnie.typepad.com/minnie/2006/07/whip_tips_topic.html

It doesn&#039;t address the fit issue but is a more cosmetic change.  Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have reposted a shirt conversion I did some time ago.  <a href="http://missminnie.typepad.com/minnie/2006/07/whip_tips_topic.html" rel="nofollow">http://missminnie.typepad.com/minnie/2006/07/whip_tips_topic.html</a></p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t address the fit issue but is a more cosmetic change.  Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Dot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 08:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a makeover on a plain shirt some time ago, it recieved praise from the lovely MeggieCat http://meggiecat.blogspot.com/ so I was thrilled.  It was just a whole lot of bias binding sewn in strips with a Carrie Bradshaw corsage.  See it here http://missminnie.typepad.com/minnie/2006/07/whip_tips_topic.html
Of course this doesn&#039;t address the fit of the garment but it is something cosmetic. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a makeover on a plain shirt some time ago, it recieved praise from the lovely MeggieCat <a href="http://meggiecat.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://meggiecat.blogspot.com/</a> so I was thrilled.  It was just a whole lot of bias binding sewn in strips with a Carrie Bradshaw corsage.  See it here <a href="http://missminnie.typepad.com/minnie/2006/07/whip_tips_topic.html" rel="nofollow">http://missminnie.typepad.com/minnie/2006/07/whip_tips_topic.html</a><br />
Of course this doesn&#8217;t address the fit of the garment but it is something cosmetic. Good luck!</p>
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