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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t use Flickr for commercial purposes</title>
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	<description>handcraft in a hectic world</description>
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		<title>By: Josi</title>
		<link>http://whipup.net/2006/08/13/dont-use-flickr-for-commercial-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-318764</link>
		<dc:creator>Josi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve researched this as well, and the responses I&#039;ve gotten are a little different for my posts for a very specific reason-

the photos do not contain the images of what is for sale, because the finished pieces for sale - only the instructions on how to make them.  This ends up being a strange fine line, that gets exploited completely by websites like ravelry.com - where Flickr is completely integrated, and Flickr images are hotlinked into Ravelry, including the pages where the pattern is for sale.

As a result, I could just as easily link to the Ravelry page where the pattern is for sale, because the developers of Ravelry are doing so in coordination with Flickr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve researched this as well, and the responses I&#8217;ve gotten are a little different for my posts for a very specific reason-</p>
<p>the photos do not contain the images of what is for sale, because the finished pieces for sale &#8211; only the instructions on how to make them.  This ends up being a strange fine line, that gets exploited completely by websites like ravelry.com &#8211; where Flickr is completely integrated, and Flickr images are hotlinked into Ravelry, including the pages where the pattern is for sale.</p>
<p>As a result, I could just as easily link to the Ravelry page where the pattern is for sale, because the developers of Ravelry are doing so in coordination with Flickr.</p>
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		<title>By: sugarpunk</title>
		<link>http://whipup.net/2006/08/13/dont-use-flickr-for-commercial-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-242008</link>
		<dc:creator>sugarpunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa - guess I never read the terms properly... thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa &#8211; guess I never read the terms properly&#8230; thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: SylvChezPlum</title>
		<link>http://whipup.net/2006/08/13/dont-use-flickr-for-commercial-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-234443</link>
		<dc:creator>SylvChezPlum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job to ask those questions to flickr..  I knew about this issue ( although I didn&#039;t know they&#039;d terminate accounts that quickly )and thus only give my web site and etsy shop details in my profile.

But I do give details for free knitting patterns or other freebies. I just had a comment (linking to here) on one of those pics : would that mean it&#039;s also wrong to give the url of my free patterns because they&#039;re located on a website where I also sell other patterns ?
just in case, this in the pic in question:http://www.flickr.com/photos/27573937@N00/2068924283/

Now I&#039;m really wondering !!   :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job to ask those questions to flickr..  I knew about this issue ( although I didn&#8217;t know they&#8217;d terminate accounts that quickly )and thus only give my web site and etsy shop details in my profile.</p>
<p>But I do give details for free knitting patterns or other freebies. I just had a comment (linking to here) on one of those pics : would that mean it&#8217;s also wrong to give the url of my free patterns because they&#8217;re located on a website where I also sell other patterns ?<br />
just in case, this in the pic in question:http://www.flickr.com/photos/27573937@N00/2068924283/</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m really wondering !!   :-P</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
		<link>http://whipup.net/2006/08/13/dont-use-flickr-for-commercial-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-10635</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks you also for posting this.

I had not realised how strict the flickr guidelines were and had Just (as in that night) posted a link to etsy when I heard about this.

I&#039;m adjusting my posts accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks you also for posting this.</p>
<p>I had not realised how strict the flickr guidelines were and had Just (as in that night) posted a link to etsy when I heard about this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m adjusting my posts accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: esther</title>
		<link>http://whipup.net/2006/08/13/dont-use-flickr-for-commercial-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-10509</link>
		<dc:creator>esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But there is even a grouppool &#039;for sale&#039;. How strange!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But there is even a grouppool &#8216;for sale&#8217;. How strange!</p>
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		<title>By: Ahna</title>
		<link>http://whipup.net/2006/08/13/dont-use-flickr-for-commercial-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-10364</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh! 128 photos edited! What a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh! 128 photos edited! What a job.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://whipup.net/2006/08/13/dont-use-flickr-for-commercial-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-10123</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I had no idea you couldn&#039;t link to sales on Flickr. Probably 1 out of every 5 photos I look at link to sales.  I actually like that people do that--its a way I find out about other people&#039;s shops and stuff they make. I wonder what happens to the Etsy group...? Thanks for the info. Very informative!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I had no idea you couldn&#8217;t link to sales on Flickr. Probably 1 out of every 5 photos I look at link to sales.  I actually like that people do that&#8211;its a way I find out about other people&#8217;s shops and stuff they make. I wonder what happens to the Etsy group&#8230;? Thanks for the info. Very informative!</p>
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		<title>By: makingtime</title>
		<link>http://whipup.net/2006/08/13/dont-use-flickr-for-commercial-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-10047</link>
		<dc:creator>makingtime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, they are making sales from the photos, and putting prices on the pages, so from what the Flickr staffperson says it&#039;s obviously breaking the rules. i would say move the group and it&#039;s members AS SOON AS POSSIBLE to one of the suggested groups from avital above.

i&#039;d say tell your group about these issues, and get the admin to email all asking them to register for another place as soon as possible. warn everyone to remove prices from the photos as soon as possible! 
when flickr deletes your account they remove all the photos, your login, and your yahoo login. those  groups are probably kind of dangerous, making it easier for flickr to find you!

i think the craftspeople who like flickr for sales like the fact that there is a certain focused demographic in flickr. so, what we need to do is migrate the sales to more friendly environment, and bring the group with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, they are making sales from the photos, and putting prices on the pages, so from what the Flickr staffperson says it&#8217;s obviously breaking the rules. i would say move the group and it&#8217;s members AS SOON AS POSSIBLE to one of the suggested groups from avital above.</p>
<p>i&#8217;d say tell your group about these issues, and get the admin to email all asking them to register for another place as soon as possible. warn everyone to remove prices from the photos as soon as possible!<br />
when flickr deletes your account they remove all the photos, your login, and your yahoo login. those  groups are probably kind of dangerous, making it easier for flickr to find you!</p>
<p>i think the craftspeople who like flickr for sales like the fact that there is a certain focused demographic in flickr. so, what we need to do is migrate the sales to more friendly environment, and bring the group with us.</p>
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		<title>By: karrie</title>
		<link>http://whipup.net/2006/08/13/dont-use-flickr-for-commercial-purposes/comment-page-1/#comment-10037</link>
		<dc:creator>karrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this mean that the destash/restash photo pool mentioned here is actually not legal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean that the destash/restash photo pool mentioned here is actually not legal?</p>
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		<title>By: angrychicken</title>
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		<dc:creator>angrychicken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow.I had no idea! thanks so much for this info-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.I had no idea! thanks so much for this info-</p>
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