Comments on: Handmade in Prison: Part Two – The Prisoners http://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/ handcraft in a hectic world Mon, 13 Feb 2012 00:20:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Adelphiahttp://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-1081430 Adelphia Mon, 19 Dec 2011 14:48:12 +0000 http://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-1081430 That's the best answer by far! Thanks for conitrubtnig. That’s the best answer by far! Thanks for conitrubtnig.

]]> By: Cinnamonhttp://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-24113 Cinnamon Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:51:00 +0000 http://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-24113 Fantastic. You might also be intersted in the Books to Women In Prison Project that started here in Chicago a few years ago. http://www.chicagobwp.orgWhen you get your Chicago project up and running, either email me or send an email inbox@gapersblock.com. I think it would be great to mention on Gapers Block.Good luck with your efforts.And as a woman who was also abused by a pedophile, I eventually realized that the hatred I felt for my attacker was damaging me but not hurting him. Trying to understand him, while chillling and awful, has helped me begin to heal myself. We focus so much on punishment and not at all on rehabilitation in this country. Efforts like this can't hurt, and most likely will help. Fantastic. You might also be intersted in the Books to Women In Prison Project that started here in Chicago a few years ago. http://www.chicagobwp.org

When you get your Chicago project up and running, either email me or send an email inbox@gapersblock.com. I think it would be great to mention on Gapers Block.

Good luck with your efforts.

And as a woman who was also abused by a pedophile, I eventually realized that the hatred I felt for my attacker was damaging me but not hurting him. Trying to understand him, while chillling and awful, has helped me begin to heal myself. We focus so much on punishment and not at all on rehabilitation in this country. Efforts like this can’t hurt, and most likely will help.

]]> By: jessecoughttp://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-20557 jessecoug Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:50:54 +0000 http://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-20557 In response to Margaret's post -- let me respond on behalf of the 2nd in four women in this country who have been abused by pedophiles:Part of the process in healing my abuse was realizing that the abuse inflicted upon me was not done because of me but instead in spite of me, and to feed whatever disease/dysfunction pedphiles have. I still hold much anger for the abusers in my life, and those who enabled or stuck up for them, but overall in order to heal I need to be able to pray/meditate that they get well and wish the best for them - because it is the best for everyone.No, programs like this do not guarantee that pedophiles or addicts have a 0 recidivism rate. But neither does hating them and doing absolutely nothing - in fact, I think that is more harmful than trying to help them.I would like to see more programs like this propping up a better social climate for 0-recidivism-target programs and more prisoner programs/prisoner rights overall - because that is best for society as a whole, its children included.I don't disagree with Margaret's rage and I know it is justified and necessary in the healing process. But I just wanted to share that after 15 years of working on abuse that happened from when I was 5 on, if not as an infant as well, when I finally admitted what happened to me when I was 16...I can now not have that hate for my abusers in my life on top of being an abuse survivor.So, I am happy to see this program and I would support any similar programs that are implemented.Jesse In response to Margaret’s post — let me respond on behalf of the 2nd in four women in this country who have been abused by pedophiles:

Part of the process in healing my abuse was realizing that the abuse inflicted upon me was not done because of me but instead in spite of me, and to feed whatever disease/dysfunction pedphiles have. I still hold much anger for the abusers in my life, and those who enabled or stuck up for them, but overall in order to heal I need to be able to pray/meditate that they get well and wish the best for them – because it is the best for everyone.

No, programs like this do not guarantee that pedophiles or addicts have a 0 recidivism rate. But neither does hating them and doing absolutely nothing – in fact, I think that is more harmful than trying to help them.

I would like to see more programs like this propping up a better social climate for 0-recidivism-target programs and more prisoner programs/prisoner rights overall – because that is best for society as a whole, its children included.

I don’t disagree with Margaret’s rage and I know it is justified and necessary in the healing process. But I just wanted to share that after 15 years of working on abuse that happened from when I was 5 on, if not as an infant as well, when I finally admitted what happened to me when I was 16…I can now not have that hate for my abusers in my life on top of being an abuse survivor.

So, I am happy to see this program and I would support any similar programs that are implemented.

Jesse

]]> By: VictoriaEhttp://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-20464 VictoriaE Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:15:06 +0000 http://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-20464 Thankyou for sharing this story. It made me cry!! anything that brings more positive humanity to humans is good and worthy. Thankyou for sharing this story. It made me cry!! anything that brings more positive humanity to humans is good and worthy.

]]> By: gkjhttp://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19758 gkj Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:36:01 +0000 http://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19758 I I have had the unfortunate experience of having a nephew, I loved dearly, incarcerated. And I wonder had he had the opportunity to continue to experiece possitive human interaction, acceptance, and a creative outlet - his life, once released, might would have had a more possitive outcome.I commend you and your efforts.Because with my experience, I see the need to continue to inforce and maintain "humanity" within an inhumane situation. Otherwise, we may be incubating even worse individuals - than we incarcerated.Thank you. I I have had the unfortunate experience of having a nephew, I loved dearly, incarcerated. And I wonder had he had the opportunity to continue to experiece possitive human interaction, acceptance, and a creative outlet – his life, once released, might would have had a more possitive outcome.

I commend you and your efforts.

Because with my experience, I see the need to continue to inforce and maintain “humanity” within an inhumane situation. Otherwise, we may be incubating even worse individuals – than we incarcerated.

Thank you.

]]> By: Catalinahttp://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19688 Catalina Tue, 07 Nov 2006 08:47:12 +0000 http://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19688 so amazing projet! congratulations! so amazing projet! congratulations!

]]> By: Emilyhttp://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19433 Emily Mon, 06 Nov 2006 04:22:15 +0000 http://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19433 Thanks so much for your moving post. I don't know why anyone would find your compassion offensive. We WhipUp readers all know the calming and enlightening power of craft, and in these times of cutbacks in US prisons' arts and education programs its good to know there are still such programs out there. The presence of positive expressive outlets for prisoners makes a difference in their pre- and post-release lives. Thanks so much for your moving post. I don’t know why anyone would find your compassion offensive. We WhipUp readers all know the calming and enlightening power of craft, and in these times of cutbacks in US prisons’ arts and education programs its good to know there are still such programs out there. The presence of positive expressive outlets for prisoners makes a difference in their pre- and post-release lives.

]]> By: Weekshttp://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19314 Weeks Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:13:51 +0000 http://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19314 I want to respond to Margaret's comment that this post is offensive. The reality is that most of the people who are incarcerated now will be released back into society. Based on my research prison administrators have found programs like this one have a calming influence on the prisoners and in some cases have helped them to see that they can do something productive with their lives. I agree that not everyone can be rehabilitated and that deeply rooted pathologies are unlikely to be "cured" by quilting, but I think it is in society's best interest to offer these people the chance to clean up their lives and rejoin society in a productive manner. I want to respond to Margaret’s comment that this post is offensive. The reality is that most of the people who are incarcerated now will be released back into society. Based on my research prison administrators have found programs like this one have a calming influence on the prisoners and in some cases have helped them to see that they can do something productive with their lives. I agree that not everyone can be rehabilitated and that deeply rooted pathologies are unlikely to be “cured” by quilting, but I think it is in society’s best interest to offer these people the chance to clean up their lives and rejoin society in a productive manner.

]]> By: Shellyhttp://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19313 Shelly Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:13:35 +0000 http://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19313 An amazing post. Thank you for the story! An amazing post. Thank you for the story!

]]> By: Maryhttp://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19300 Mary Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:07:16 +0000 http://whipup.net/2006/11/03/handmade-in-prison-part-two-the-prisoners/#comment-19300 an interesting conflict, perhaps, between the fact that these men may once again inflict pain and anguish upon society in general and children in specific.....and the obvious tenderness with which they approach this project, reminding us they are indeed, human, with hurting hearts.... we need to remember they are damaged, also, so this is a nice way to help heal. but what do we say to Margaret, and the many others like her, who have been abused....and the children who will be abused today, tomorrow and beyond? quilting may not solve the problems of these prisoners but perhaps it gives them hope as well as distraction. an interesting conflict, perhaps, between the fact that these men may once again inflict pain and anguish upon society in general and children in specific…..and the obvious tenderness with which they approach this project, reminding us they are indeed, human, with hurting hearts…. we need to remember they are damaged, also, so this is a nice way to help heal. but what do we say to Margaret, and the many others like her, who have been abused….and the children who will be abused today, tomorrow and beyond? quilting may not solve the problems of these prisoners but perhaps it gives them hope as well as distraction.

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